Hi all. Ive been looking for a mechanically reliable Honda Nighthawk, ideally at least 700cc, to purchase for up to @ $1500.
I am okay with Minor cosmetic flaws, provided the bike is mechanically in excellent condition, needing no mechanical repairs in near future.

If you or anyone you know is interested in selling such a bike, email me with information, photos and contact #.

Thanks.

Aaron
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Aaron
SF Bay Area
  • Well, I did find just this type of bike, almost, within my price range.
    Was advertised by the motorcycle shop as being in excellent condition, and needing no mechanical work to keep it running, having no mechanical issues.
    It ran fine when i test road it.
    They first told me that if something went wrong with it within first few weeks i could return it for a refund. But then when i bought it they said they would only sell it as is, which they described as in " excellent condition, needing no mechanical repairs to run".
    So I drove it on the freeway home from Santa Clara to my home near Berkely.

    Next day I drove it to work, turned it off, key in off position rather than the park position which leaves taillight on.
    Came out of work about 5 hours later, and when i tried starting it it would not start. Quickly died to clicking sounds. Long story short, paid another $140 to have it towed to a Berkeley motorcycle shop where they said they put the battery on a charger and looked it over. Could find nothing wrong with it that they could directly discern as causing it to not start. Though the jetting was set a bit high they said, there is a supertrapp exhaust added to the bike which may be affecting it, and the front fork seals seem to be leaking a bit. But the bike started up when i came to the shop to pick it up.
    I drove it home, parked it overnight. Came out next morning took it to work,. Came out from work, again - bike would not start! Only weak whirring sound quicly fading to clicking and lights dimming. So had it towed one more time, this time to my home.

    Fast forward about a month, Ive purchased a charger, trickle 750ma charger, removed battery from bike and have set the trickle charger up on the battery for a couple days. Noticed that the shop i took it to after it failed to start the first time, seem to have not checked the water level of the battery as all water resevoirs were at or below the bottom fluid marker level, so i filled them to top level mark with distilled water before charging battery this time.

    Am thinking, from feedback and suggestions from people here and there, that maybe there is an issue with the bikes charging itself during lower rpms? The bike was pretty sluggish to begin with when i rode it in the lower gears. Once into 3rd usually it would suddently surge into life and seem to do quite well at higher rpms & speeds. Lower speeds,rpsm, regular city or stop and go traffic it was sluggish to take off from a stop or slow speed. That tendency significantly increased within the short time ( a week ) after i bought the bike from the shop in santa clara / sunnyvale. And was sputtering and backfiring a couple days before it failed to start this last time.

    Any suggestions or advice from people familar with these bikes and or issues is welcome. I have a manual for the bike, and have been looking through it.
    I am green when it comes to working on bikes or mechanical issues as most of my energy has been focused in other areas of life and development.
    Though am interested in learning, and would love to barter with someone knowledgable with these bikes - hands ontroubleshooting, maintenance & repair instruction ( and probably some use of tools as I have some basic tools but lack many specialized tools ) in exchange for professional massage therapy ( for those wondering or with a sense of humor, I do straight bodywork - no prostitution or sexual massage ) and qigong instruction.
    • First, find a digital voltmeter.

      next, obtain the following voltages within a window of time (do them one after the other) -

      1) voltage of battery when dis-connected

      2) the voltage of the battery connected with the key off

      3) voltage of the battery when engine is running at idle (after it's been running for a couple minutes)

      4) rev the motor and see what the voltage is

      There should be no difference between 1 and 2, and little or none between 3 & 4, but you should see a couple volts difference between the first two and the second two.

      Let me know what you find.

      -Rick
      • Thank you.

        Unfortunately, the bike will not fully crank over again already.
        After charging it for days on the trickle charger, when I had first reconnected the battery to the bike it did start after a few tries and with full choke left on. If i tried closing choke within a few minutes after starting it would die.
        I did not have the multimeter when i first installed the battery after charging. But bought one with a couple days.

        So the bike has been off the charger and sitting in the bike for a few days, close to a week now.

        Today, I checked the voltage with the battery connected to bike with ignition / keys off. Reading was fluxuating between 12.2-12.6 Volts.

        Then tried starting the bike but it would not start at all this time, again. Just weakly attempted to crank over but would not start, even with full choke.

        Then I took the battery out of the bike and read the voltage - 12.21 Volts.

        Unfortunately, the bike is again not starting strongly enough to run to even do the other two tests you recommended, with it running.
        • This could indicate a a current leak somewhere -
          voltage with the battery connected to bike with ignition / keys off. Reading was fluxuating between 12.2-12.6 Volts.

          especially with battery out of the bike and read the voltage - 12.21 Volts.

          Try putting the battery on the charger and see what you get once it is fully charged. then read it when it is connected to the bike and ignition is off.

          two additional questions -
          how old is this battery? Has it been replaced recently, and, is it mounted or can it slide around?

          Best of luck!
          -Rick
        • Does the service manual have an electrical troubleshooting guide?

          It could be the battery is okay. You could take it over to Kragen's, where they'll test it for free.

          If your battery is healthy, run through the troubleshooting guide. You probably should test for spark by pulling the spark plug, reattaching it to the lead, placing it on the engine, with the bike in neutral and the clutch disengaged, and the red engine Stop button out. Then turn the key in the ignition to On and press the Start button. A blue spark should then jump across the spark plug gap if the ignition switch is working properly. If you see a spark, then the problem probably is elsewhere -- e.g., a faulty engine switch, broken wire harness or poor connection to related circuit couplers, faulty coil, faulty regulator/rectifier, bad battery cable or terminal, dirty terminals, etc.

          I'm a newbie too and am just listing items from my bike's electrical troubleshooting guide.

          At least you have a multimeter. Now you can either learn to use it or take your bike to a mechanic (or have a mechanic come to you).

          GL!
          • Thank you for your responses.
            I posted this also in another forum, along with the most recent update, which i will crosspost here rather than recomposing the whole thing.

            In answer to the questions about the battery - the dealer i bought it from said it was a fairly new battery, and it is caged into the bike with a bolted bar going across it.
            Some photos are below.
            I will get to the multimeter tests again soon.

            "I bought a new battery on Saturday November 3rd, cleaned terminal connections, and checked several of the fuses on the bike with an inexpensive fuse tester that came with a few fuses from Kragen Auto Parts supposedly for motorcycles.

            Using the little tester that has two tiny metal adjustable points to contact fuses and it has green light that goes on if fuses are good.
            But the fuses seem to be rather different than the ones in the bike, and i cant even see how to get the fuses out of their whitish plastic housing to replace them even if the fuses i just bought were the same size / shape as the ones in the bike. i thought they would be simply able to be pulled out, but they seem to be joined as part of the white plastic housing they are in and join together with the other white plastic housing connections going to various parts of the cycle.

            so i bought a wet cell battery from a battery store in oakland, ca. which they were nice enough to fill with electrolyte and charge up for me before i came to pay for it.
            So i took it home, installed it in the nighthawk and after a few seconds of fussing it started up stronger than it has other then the first day i looked at it from the dealer, with choke on 3/4 to full to start and tapering off after a few minutes.

            i took it on a ride on city streets to the freeway to help the battery acclimate to its new life and feel how the bike will respond now.
            Its mostly been running fine now, although there is still a bit of sluggishness a few times where it felt like it was about to die out when taking off from a paused position at traffic lights a few times. And when i pulled up into a gas station to refill it, as i pulled to a stop the bike sounded like it was going to die before i actually hit the off switch.
            And it was backfiring a few times as well.

            So though it is starting and running so far with the new battery, still feels tempermental. Like more needs addressing. Perhaps related in part to the being jetted too rich as a mechanic mentioned last month?

            Question? - Are all the fuses in the white plastic fuse boxes on the motorcyle live, active fuses with current in them? Because there was one or two fuse ends that did not light up with the fuse tester when i contacted them. Although they were in fuse container next to two ends that did light up as working correctly.
            A few photos of the fuses on my bike are here -

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            One of the fuse types, the bottom photo just above this line of text, where the fuse tester says the 2 fuse ends with the gap between them light up as good, but the row of 3 in same fuse container did not light up, signifying they are broken or not working (?) or do they not matter, are some kind of spares? How do i actually replace these types of fuses? They are not the kind Kragen sold me as being useable for my bike, unless Im really not seeing them correctly?

            These are the fuses Kragen sold me -
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            I also noticed today after putting new battery in, when i came back and looked closer at the spark plugs that the rubber condom looking cover that snaps over them was not fit all the way down to the bottom of them as far as it could go. Unfortunately the spark plug farther back in the crevice was too cramped too reach with my fingers and i tried using a pair of needle nose pliers which made a tear in the soft rubber condom fitting over that spark plug. Though it seems to mostly come back together rather than leaving a gaping hole.
            I cant figure out how to get that back spark plug completely covered by the condom rubber joining piece without ripping it more.? Any advice on that? And how far down the rubber condom piece should snap over and come down over the spark plugs? There seem to be a few circular ribs at the bottom of the condom rubber cap that fits over the spark plugs, and i think that it has had more room to snap down over the plugs since ive had the bike.? I took a photo of it after my ride today, the one with the black condomy cover still over it toward the back is covered as completely & incompletely as i think it has been since i bought the bike and have been riding it.? They were both like that actually.
            Here is a photo of the spark plugs -

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            Could that be causing / contributing to some of the not starting, backfiring
            dying and poor acceleration issues aside from the battery?"

            I started the bike again this morning, but it was not easy. Tried using half then full choke still only turning over but not starting. Then i tried using throttle, while choke was still on about half way and adjusting according to sounds of bike, on a whim ( which before would kill it outright at first start ) and that actually brought the bike to life and started it! Not sure why the change from throttle killing it to throttle helping to start it first off?

            The bike was able to be started again this way, and with some nursing it seemed to be staying running, revved up then after 4 minutes or so at same choke level it began to seemingly stablize and on its own quiet down the rpms yet stay running. Then i turned the bike off and came in here to write this.
            • Bike repair

              Sun, November 4, 2007 - 12:32 PM
              Backfiring could be the symptom of a bad spark wire or a lean fuel/air mixture. Probably other things too. With the first, you could replace the spark plug leads. (And replace the plugs too.) With the latter, you could clean and/or replace the main jet(s), as it(they) might be clogged.

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